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What is the Flyer List all about? The Flyer List is sponsored by Flyer Magazine and administered by Flyer List volunteers. The Flyer List Administration E-Mail Address is The Flyer List "Netiquette" The list belongs to the list members. It is owned by no single interest. It is the combined talents and interests of all the members of the Flyer List "Family". All Flyer List Members have equal status. The list exists for two reasons: first, to encourage discussion about all aviation matters between readers of Flyer, and secondly to give the Flyer team a medium to let you know of any news that crops up during the month. This is a two-way mailing list, so in addition to postings of interest from the Flyer team, we would encourage you to ask and answer anything that crops up, use the list to communicate with fellow aviators on any aviation-related subject, arrange shared flights or to relate flight or aviation-related experiences. You can also use the list if you have any aviation-related equipment to sell, including aeroplanes. The Flyer List is not intended for commercial purposes. Companies should use classified advertising within the Flyer Magazine for sales promotion. This should not restrict individuals from discussing items such as shares in aircraft or sale items between list members, however. When posting items to the list, be polite at all times - even when you disagree with the person you are replying to. While non-aviation content is discouraged, brief postings requesting help/advice on non-aviation matters are permissible. However, any replies to such postings should be sent direct to the originator and not posted to the list. If you are moving off the original topic of a thread, modify the subject line from time to time as the aviation thread evolves. Do not post any Virus alerts - most of them are hoaxes. If you need to communicate about any spam or "virus alert", always contact the Flyer List Administration first. Do not post your concerns about such things to the Flyer List. The "virus alerts" (especially those that say something like "Pass on to as many people as possible") may be attempts to flood the network with E-Mail. They actually act as a "benign virus". Post only "plain text" (also known as ASCII text) messages to the list. This means you should avoid HTML-generated messages and attachments other than replied-to or forwarded E-Mail messages. If your messages are "bounced" back to you because of HTML, the list administrators can advise you on how to turn off the HTML feature on your mailing software. HTML takes up a lot more bandwidth on the internet, and over twice as much upload and download time as plain text, so it costs us all a lot more, too. Very long messages will also be "held" until the admins can check them out - this helps prevent spam being sent to everyone on the list. There have been many attempts to spread viruses as attachments to e-mail messages, so the list server will reject messages with attachments, to prevent them infecting list members' computers. If you have pictures or other packages you wish to send, ask who wishes to receive them, and send them direct to those people. When posting an item that may contain information that might be valuable to other list members, post to the list. If the item is of concern only to the originator, then communicate with the individual, and do not post to the list. When you hit the "Reply" button your reply will be sent to the originator of the message you are replying to, not to the List. If you want it to go to the List, remove the originator's name and address and add "". If you have doubt about whether the item is of interest to the list or to the individual, default in favour of posting to the list. One never knows about the specific wishes of the many and varied interests of all members of the Flyer List Family. Although most list participants are from the United Kingdom, many are from around the world. Subtle language differences do exist. Humour is fine and makes communication more effective. Since the list is read by people from a number of countries and from a variety of cultural and social backgrounds, jokes which are funny to some may be offensive to others. If you detect such a situation, write the List Member individually and explain in a supportive and positive manner. List Members should always feel everything is written with a positive intent. No jokes about race, nationality, or religion are ever appropriate. If you feel offended by something which has been posted please tell the originator privately, or take matters up with the Administration. Never add to a flame war on the list! When using humour, use appropriate smilies. Since facial expressions and body language are not present, humour can be misunderstood. Sarcasm is very difficult to be successful with over 300 people and should be avoided. Use caution to avoid misunderstandings. An offensive statement doesn't get any less offensive just because it has a smiley at the end. There is no such thing as a "dumb" question related to aviation. We all are at different stages of knowledge in our flying interests. All should feel free to bring up any topic that is aviation related. Most non-flying questions should be answered off list, direct with the originator. Contact the Flyer List Administration if you are having difficulty. This List Administration has been set up to service all such needs. Volunteers among List Members are there to help! You are likely to strike up friendships with other regulars. There is nothing wrong with the occasional personal comment posted to the list, but avoid personal chit-chat and in-jokes. When replying to messages, you may wish to quote the relevant part of the message to remind others what you are replying to. Cut out anything that is not relevant to your reply. When cutting and snipping to make your reply clear, be sure the original posting intent remains intact. Consolidate your replies. Finding multiple replies, each consisting of comments of just "I agree" doesn't add any new helpful information to the topic. You may wish to agree and add more evidence as to why you feel as you do. This is our aim: To talk about anything that flies, why it does, how it does, and to learn from one another's experiences. How the FLYER list works The FLYER list is a "mailing list manager" application, made up of some special E-mail addresses: The address for list messages The address for subscribe and unsubscribe messages The List Administrators All mail addressed to will be sent to all the "subscribers". You are now subscribed to the list. If you don't want to be subscribed any longer, you can "unsubscribe" very easily. Mail addressed to is specifically intended to allow you to command the mail system to do something - add you to the list of subscribers, or to take you off permanently. Here's how: 1. Address a message to 2. Ignore the subject line in your mail program 3. in the body of the message enter either: subscribe flyer (to subscribe to the FLYER list) or subscribe flyer-digest unsubscribe flyer (to stop receiving the FLYER list) or unsubscribe flyer-digest info flyer (to receive the latest version of this message) help flyer (to get a fuller explanation of these and other commands) followed by a line containing the word end (so that the system server doesn't try to process your name as a command). To post new messages to everyone on the list, just send them to :- In your first message to the FLYER list, you might want to introduce yourself, and perhaps tell people what your interests are and how you might wish to be supported. This is, of course, optional. Going on Holiday, or away for a while? Don't unsubscribe from the list. It's much easier just to turn off your list mail while you're away, and then to turn it on again when you get home. For instructions on how to get your password, and to turn mail on and off, click here. The Archive Messages sent to the List are held in an archive, so members can "catch up" after being on holiday, or look up past topics. For instructions on how to get your password, and how to access the Archive, click here Have fun, and happy landings. The Flyer Volunteer Admins Return to front page. |
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